The Seven Thunders Are Not the Voice of God?

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[False Claim]

The Church of God insists that Christ Ahnsahnghong is God because He restored the seven feasts which are the secret of the seven thunders, and explains that those who did not understand the voice of God directly heard the sound of thunder. (2 Sa 22:14; Job 37:4; Ps 18:13)

However, the sound from heaven, not the voice of God, is also expressed as thunder. So, it is difficult to say that the seven thunders in Rev 10:3 is the voice of God, and that Christ Ahnsahnghong unsealed the seven thunders.

  • ?Rev 6:1 “I watched as the Lamb opened the first of the seven seals. Then I heard one of the four living creatures say in a voice like thunder, “Come!”
  • ?Rev 19:6 “Then I heard what sounded like a great multitude, like the roar of rushing waters and like loud peals of thunder, shouting: “Hallelujah! For our Lord God Almighty reigns.”

 

 

[Countermeasure]

1. Why do they ignore the cases where thunder is the voice of God?

Does the fact that “The sound of thunder does not only stand for the voice of God” means that thunder is not the voice of God? The saying, “Thunder does not only stand for the voice of God,” also means that it does stand for the voice of God. Are they so busy opposing us that they don’t understand this simple logic?

The people against us ignore all the cases where thunder is the voice of God (Jn 12:28-29; Ex 20:18) and only make claims for the cases where it does not stand for thunder. They themselves clearly show that they merely want to be against us without wanting to know the true meaning of the Bible.

 

2. Then, show what the secret of the seven thunders is

They can neither show what the secret of the seven thunders is, nor do they have enough evidence, but all they say is that we are wrong.

 

3. The Bible testifies that not only the seven thunders but also the law was sealed (Isa 8:16)

Explain what kind of law was sealed. They cannot say anything about this. As a matter of fact, the two sentences are the same: “Seven thunders that represent the Ten Commandments were sealed,” and “The law was sealed.” It means that among the law, the seven feasts in three times, which have same meaning of the Ten Commandments, were sealed.

 

<Supplementary Explanation>

1. The secret of the seven thunders indicates the feasts of the new covenant, which were established by Jesus

We hope that they will not claim ignorantly that the feasts establi

shed by Jesus are the feasts of the Old Testament. In the book of truth, doesn’t it say, “The seven thunders that were sealed up is the gospel of the new covenant that was destroyed by Satan”?

The Mystery of God and the Spring of the Water of Life
Chap. 1 Unsealing the Secret of the Seven Thunders
The mystery is the gospel of the new covenant which was announced to the apostles and the prophets of the early Church. After the Apostolic Age, this new covenant was trampled by Satan during the Dark Ages and has been sealed up until today.

 

2. The Bible testifies that keeping the words of the covenant, which are the Ten Commandments, is the same with keeping the feasts.

  • Ex 34:27-28 Then the Lord said to Moses, “Write down these words, for in accordance with these words I have made a covenant with you and with Israel.” Moses was there with the Lord forty days and forty nights without eating bread or drinking water. And he wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant―the Ten Commandments.

In accordance with “these words” God made a covenant, and the covenant was the Ten Commandments. So, “these words” and the Ten Commandments mean the same thing. Then, what are “these words”? When we look up the previous part, it refers to the words, “Celebrate the feasts in three times.”

  • Ex 34:18 “Celebrate the Feast of Unleavened Bread . . .”
  • Ex 34:22-23 “Celebrate the Feast of Weeks with the first fruits of the wheat harvest, and the Feast of Ingathering at the turn of the year . . .”
  • Ex 34:25 “Do not offer the blood of a sacrifice to me along with anything containing yeast, and do not let any of the sacrifice from the Passover Feast remain until morning.”

Like this, the words, “Keeping the feasts in three times,” are the same as the Ten Commandments. However, the sacrifice in the Old Testament, which was offered with the blood of animals, was changed completely by Jesus (Heb 7:12). For example, the Passover that was kept by slaughtering the lamb was changed into the holy worship by keeping it with bread and wine (Ex 12:1-13; 1 Co 5:7; Mt 26:17-28).

Therefore, the secret of the seven thunders (Rev 10:4) in the New Testament, which was hidden till the last days, is the feasts of the new covenant.

 

[“The Law of Moses and the Law of Christ,” Chap. 1 The Ten Commandments and the Feasts]
In the law of Moses, the Ten Commandments are called the covenant, and the feasts are also called the covenant. When God proclaimed all the laws to Moses who was staying on Mount Sinai forty days to receive the Ten Commandments a second time, God spoke of the seven feasts in three times and established a covenant in accordance with the meaning of the feasts, and He gave Moses the stone tablets of the covenants (Ex. 34:18-28).

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  • January 18, 2013 at 12:16 pm
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    So the thunder can represent the sound of heaven and also God’s voice. The most intriguing part is that they don’t give a response as to what the secret of the seven thunders is. They have nothing to say against because they have no clue. Yet they will try to prove wrong what they can and be quiet about what they have no clue about. All there efforts sound a bit off to me.

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  • January 18, 2013 at 12:22 pm
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    I think there are many words that have a different meaning in the bible. Here clearly it is talking about the voice of God .
    But I guess if you have a will to prove someone wrong your words can come out strange..

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  • January 18, 2013 at 2:28 pm
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    It’s difficult to me. As far as I know, it’s the most mysterious part in the bible and no one opened it…
    I think, it’s more reasonable to interpret it as the voice of god.
    I wanna browse this site to find out more about the bible.
    Thanks for cool stuff. 😉

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    • January 31, 2013 at 9:27 am
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      Actually, the one who revealed all of these things to us is Christ Ahnsahnghong which we proclaim as the Second Coming Jesus. We do not proclaim Him as the Christ because of some miracles which other Christs(false~) do. But we proclaim about Him through the prophecies of the Bible. Please try to come to the nearest World Mission Society Church of God nearest to your place. We can explain it more clearly to as you progress.

      There is no other Church that can lead you to the True God who will save us from the Last Plagues except our Church of God [Zion] established by Christ Ahnsahnghong.

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  • January 18, 2013 at 4:38 pm
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    And also… ? 😛 Whenever I hear their claims, their claims are equivalent to a child’s claim. I think they should be a little bit phlegmatic before they insist something. How pitiful they are considering that they know everything, in fact they do not know anything? Well, their actions are also a part of the prophecy, so I guess they must insist that way. Only the Rood of David can unseal the secret of the seven thunders, that is, Christ Ahnsahnghong. So without believing in Him, they would never understand.

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  • January 18, 2013 at 11:58 pm
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    don’t you hear abt the story of moses from te book of genesis to of deuteronomy?
    on the mount, Only Moses heard the voice of God, but not to ppl
    The Israelites didn’t hear of God,just the voice of lighteningof thunder
    It is sure !!
    If you deny the truth,you deny God who spoke to ppl
    do not bother wmscog anymore!!
    They are pure!!

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  • January 20, 2013 at 4:00 pm
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    As you know, Lamb in the Bible also has more 2 meanings. In Jn. 1:29 Lamb means Jesus Christ. In Jn. 10:10 Lamb means saints of God. and so on… Likewise, this is also same case.

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  • January 20, 2013 at 9:43 pm
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    I don’t understand what they are talking about it.
    They can not see and can not understand what bible said.
    Definitely they don’t know about God’s will that God came to the earth and teach us that restored truth.
    Please understand God’s will and don’t insist false claim.

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  • January 21, 2013 at 11:35 am
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    Every time I see people who opposed to Church of God, I cannot see any logical and biblical backgrounds or evidence of their claim that WMSCOG is wrong.

    Isn’t it a common sense that we should show other reasonable backgrounds or alternatives when we criticize something or someone? but they don’t.

    When I see the countermeasures of WMSCOG to slanderers, they makes sense to me pretty much that the claim of the slanderers and then I feel my faith is getting strengthen.

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  • January 21, 2013 at 5:30 pm
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    It seems to me as if they are running out of things to falsify so now they just reaching.
    I hope they do come to their senses and give up on such a hopeless battle.

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  • January 21, 2013 at 5:36 pm
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    The least they could do is try to come up with something good….

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  • January 21, 2013 at 11:40 pm
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    I remember when I first had this study, before anyone else realized what the thunders meant, God had already opened my eyes. Even Missionary was surprissed to see that Father and Mother had opened my eyes.

    My sheep listen to my voice, only God’s children hear and understand his word. His rebutal made no sence to me at all, if anything it confirmed even further the prophecy.

    It doesn’t matter how Satan tries to twist God’s words, Children of Elohim can not be deceived!

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  • January 22, 2013 at 12:14 am
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    Yeah… don’t you think it’s amazing that there’s someone who can link the whole bible first from Revelation to Isaiah and to Exodus and so many other verses, gather them and show us how everything perfectly fit?
    surely the one who can link all of them is so amazing!
    I have read the whole bible a few times, but I have never imagined that everything fit so perfectly.
    Now I know why it is so. It’s because the one who gather them is…THE HOLY SPIRIT -GOD
    Isa 34:16 ” Look in the scroll of the Lord and read:
    None of these will be missing,
    not one will lack her mate
    For it is his mouth that has given the order,
    and HIS SPIRIT will GATHER them together.”
    Therefore since it’s Christ Ahnsahnghong who has taught us all these, He must be the HOLY SPIRIT, GOD!!!
    So let’s not doubt anymore and have firm faith in HIM!!!
    God bless you….

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  • January 31, 2013 at 11:27 pm
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    I want to ask them who brought us the New Covenant Passover in this last age!
    Yes, only Christ Ahnsahnghong!
    It means that Christ Ahnsahnghong must be the 2nd coming Christ!
    And, that they are opposite to God!

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  • February 10, 2013 at 9:22 am
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    It’s really amazing!
    No one unveiled the secret of the seven thunders except Christ Ahnsahnghong.
    Christ Ahnsahnghong is the Second Coming Jesus and the Root of David who opened the sealed Bible for our salvation.

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  • February 23, 2013 at 3:52 am
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    Its so amazing how people claim we have false teachings but when we ask them “what is truth” than they have no answer. They say to leave this church and deny Father and Mother but they never tell us where to go or to whom to worship. The reason they are this way is because of the prophecy in Rev 18. They do not dwell in Zion with God only in Babylon (a home of unclean spirits and demons and), since they know that they will fall they are trying to take us with them. But, before Father explained this NO ONE even knew about the secret of the seven thunders..Thanl Father explained it and all they can say is thats wrong. How do you know? Until that time it was sealed! So how can they now say its wrong! How do you know to you it has remains sealed. As Father said, ‘even they have to fulfill their mission’. Than just as the disciples did 2000 years ago when they were persecuted for the Name and Father did when He was persecuted in these last days, we should also do too…than what was it they did?? They rejoiced and laughed, because only God and God’s people are persecuted (Acts5:40-41, Jh15:21, Rom 8:16)

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  • June 13, 2013 at 8:31 pm
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    Deniying that the sevent thunders is the voice of God, it’s showing that they have not biblical knowledge, there is not way to interpret the bible by anyone’s opinion then who can we say its correct, although all the religions try, but the only one that can let us know the secret of the seven seals is the root of David, the root t of David is Jesus who comes a 2nd time, the way God show that we can understand the bible is that every verse has a mate, so as you find the mate you can understand the meaning! The church of God teaching is the only teaching that it make sense to me, it’s perfect there is no foult with it, I have been studying for a few years and the more I study the more I learn! It’s truly amaizing!! Christ AhnSahnghong teach us all the mysteries, open your spiritual eyes and see who do you have in front of you! He is surely our God!!

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  • July 8, 2013 at 10:28 pm
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    If we believe the one who brought us the way our salvation , Christ Ahnsahnghong,
    we need to believe His all teachings.

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  • July 9, 2013 at 7:50 am
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    It’s prophesied that God is to unveil the seven thunders.
    Only Christ Ahnsahnghong unveiled the seven thunders and let us know hidden secret of the Bible.
    Christ Ahnsahnghong is the Second Coming Jesus and Almighty God.

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  • September 18, 2013 at 3:21 pm
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    Surely Christ Ahnsahnghong is the Savior who will save us! All the prophecies of the Bible prove this fact!

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  • September 20, 2013 at 6:31 am
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    Who can reveal the mystery of the seven thunders?
    Only God can.
    Actually, no one except Christ Ahnsahnghong revealed the mystery of the seven thunders.
    Christ Ahnsahnghong has come as the Spiritual David and opened the sealed Bible (Revelation 5:1-) according to the prophecy.

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  • November 25, 2013 at 9:45 pm
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    If someone deny the Scripture, the words of God, thier insistence is just against God’s will misleading ppl!

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